4 December 2025
Episode 4: What does gene editing mean for our future?
We put genetic modification under the lens as Aotearoa New Zealand discusses a major law change. In this episode, we unpack what genes, gene editing and GM actually are, how they are already used, and what Aotearoa New Zealand’s new Gene Technology Bill could mean for our environment, our food, and our future.
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Episode Highlights
- What genes and DNA are and how they function
- The difference between genetic modification, gene editing, transgenesis and synthetic biology
- How gene technologies are already used in medicine, agriculture and pest control
- The history of GM debates in Aotearoa New Zealand, including the Royal Commission on Genetic Modification
- The Gene Technology Bill and the shift from HSNO to a dedicated gene technology regulator
- Risk, benefit and who holds decision making power, including Māori perspectives
- Global pressures, climate change and how regulation shapes innovation
Episode Description
Genetic modification has shaped public debate in Aotearoa New Zealand for more than 25 years, influencing how we think about risk, responsibility and the future of our environment. This episode unpacks what genes and DNA actually are, how gene editing and genetic modification work, and why these tools have become so central to conversations about pests, diseases and climate change.
Our hosts revisit the early 2000s Royal Commission on Genetic Modification, the surge of public concern that followed, and how the science has advanced in the decades since. They explore the differences between gene editing, transgenesis and synthetic biology, the benefits and limitations of each, and the global momentum that is pushing these technologies forward. The kōrero also explains how forensics, medicine, agriculture and pest control already rely on genetic tools, often in ways most people never see.
We also look at the ethical, cultural and regulatory questions that guide how Aotearoa New Zealand uses these technologies, including who takes the risk, who benefits and how Māori and communities are involved in decision making. The episode highlights both the promise of genetic tools and the responsibilities that come with them as the country enters a pivotal moment in shaping its future with the Gene Technology Bill.
Meet the Hosts
Professor Amanda Black — Director, Bioprotection Aotearoa; soil scientist at Lincoln University.
Professor Peter Dearden — Co-Director, Genomics Aotearoa; geneticist at the University of Otago.
Dr Nick Waipara — Forest pathologist with Plant & Food Research Group of the Bioeconomy Science Institute, and a long-time collaborator with Te Tira Whakamātaki.
Glossary of Key Terms
DNA
The molecule that carries genetic information in almost all living organisms. It provides the instructions for building and running cells and can be copied and passed on to the next generation.
Gene
A segment of DNA that affects how an organism develops or functions. Changing a gene can change how a plant, animal or microbe behaves or responds to its environment.
Genetic modification (GM)
An umbrella term for techniques where people deliberately change an organism’s DNA for a particular purpose, rather than relying only on traditional breeding or random mutation.
Gene editing
A more precise form of genetic modification that uses tools such as CRISPR to make targeted changes to DNA, for example altering a single “letter” in the genetic code.
Transgenesis
The process of taking a gene from one species and placing it into another, for example adding a bacterial gene to cotton so the plant is less attractive to certain insect pests.
Gene drive
A genetic system designed to spread a particular change through a population faster than normal inheritance. Gene drives are being researched as a possible tool to control disease-carrying insects, but none have been released into the wild.
Further Reading & Show Notes
Ngā hangarau ā-ira i Aotearoa | Genetic technologies in Aotearoa New Zealand

Access the full resources via Royal Society Te Apārangi website >>
Gene Technology Bill and regulatory changes
Gene Technology (Regulation) Bill
The proposed law that would replace parts of the HSNO Act and introduce a new system for how gene technologies are managed in Aotearoa New Zealand.
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2024/0110/latest/LMS1009752.html
Aotearoa New Zealand Parliament – submissions and progress
Track the Bill, read submissions and see where it sits in the parliamentary process.
https://bills.parliament.nz/v/6/22059628-b0cc-4931-5e07-08dd18a12bfb?Tab=sub
MBIE – gene technology regulation
A clear explanation of why the Government is updating the rules, what the new regulator would do, and how the changes may affect research and industry.
https://www.mbie.govt.nz/science-and-technology/science-and-innovation/agencies-policies-and-budget-initiatives/gene-technology-regulation
Beehive – Royal Commission on Genetic Modification
Background on the Commission that shaped New Zealand’s original approach to genetic modification in the early 2000s.
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/feature/royal-commission-genetic-modification
Science background and learning resources
Genomics Aotearoa
A national collaborative network that supports genomics research in Aotearoa. Their resources provide clear explanations of gene technologies, their uses and their implications.
https://www.genomics-aotearoa.org.nz/
Genomics Aotearoa Glossary
Useful definitions of genetics and genomics terms mentioned in this episode.
https://www.genomics-aotearoa.org.nz/education-events/glossary
The Genomic Revolution (Genomics Aotearoa, 2022)
An overview of how genomics is transforming medicine, agriculture, biodiversity research and conservation.
https://www.genomics-aotearoa.org.nz/sites/default/files/2024-03/The%20Genomic%20Revolution%20%282022%29.pdf
Introductory resources on DNA and genes
NHGRI DNA fact sheet
A simple explainer of what DNA is and how it works.
https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Deoxyribonucleic-Acid-Fact-Sheet
NHGRI gene therapy explainer
An introduction to how gene technologies are used in medicine.
https://www.genome.gov/research-at-nhgri/Projects/Democratizing-Education/understanding-gene-therapy-approaches
Context for global gene technologies
WHO malaria fact sheet
Helpful background for understanding why gene drives are being explored for mosquito control.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria
The Spinoff – what lifting the GM ban could mean for NZ
An easy-to-read summary of the current national debate.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/14-08-2024/what-does-lifting-the-ban-on-genetic-modification-mean-for-new-zealand
About the Podcast
Under the Lens is a conversation series exploring how ecosystems resist, recover, and thrive across Aotearoa New Zealand and the Pacific.
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We welcome tough questions, speak in plain language, and focus on real people and real impacts. Our conversations bridge perspectives and explore how knowledge, experience, and action come together to support resilience across Aotearoa.
Where This Episode Fits
This kōrero bridges our early discussions about ecological pressure with the emerging technologies that might help us respond. By exploring genetic modification, gene editing and the history behind Aotearoa New Zealand’s GM debates, we build the foundation needed to understand the practical challenges ahead.
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